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When will the western world realize they are supporting a lost cause?

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Mustafa asked:

Below is a verse from the Holy Qur’an. I can see that it’s very true… especially in light of the recent atrocities in Lebanon committed by the Israelis. They certainly are very violent and heartless. Good Christians would never resort to this type of violence, but instead exhaust the means of peace and resisting violence as much as possible. The Israeli army is obviously the axis of evil in this conflict and the US government is evil for supporting them. The blood of hundreds of innocent people are on the hands of these two evil governments. On the Day of Judgment, only God will give true justice.

[5.82] Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity for those who believe (to be) the Jews and those who are polytheists, and you will certainly find the nearest in friendship to those who believe (to be) those who say: We are Christians; this is because there are priests and monks among them and because they do not behave proudly.
greypony1990 – the best thing i can do… pray for peace and encourage fellow muslims to pray for peace. by the way, i don’t force my religion on anyone. it’s truths just happen to be self evident. i never forced you or anyone to believe. do you think i have some tanks or bombers to fight against israel? get real.

what have you done to help the situation? write israel a check?
Leo L – I’ve very disappointed in your question. It is full of racism and ignorance. You obviously know nothing about Islam except what the media spoon feeds you. Shame on you.
bluecollarguytx – wrong answer
spamandham – it was never a threat and still isn’t today. you guys are the threat
seminary dropout – poor answer. you obviously learned nothing in seminary, good thing they kicked you out.
Muffie – good answer but hezbollah does not represent islam, not are the Israeli’s killing hezbollah… 95% of their murders are of innocent Muslims and Christians in Lebanon.

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12 Comments

  1. azmurath says:

    Honestly, I just wish we would completely obliterate the entire Middle East, then just send people in radsuits to build pipelines that are hundreds of miles long to bring oil out of the wasteland.

  2. spamandham says:

    When the Islamic world stops being a threat to it.

  3. AznDonut says:

    Israel will fall because The Pope and Islamic Leaders have made a deal to move the Vatican to Jerusalem. Islam was started by the Catholic Church.

  4. wzr5gq20032000 says:

    U.S.always wins……….time………..

  5. green lantern says:

    They took our land,burn our mosque and killed us.

  6. AJ says:

    The Qur’an is false as is the text of Jews and Christians. Religion is false.

  7. greypony1990 says:

    when will you stop forcing your beliefs on others? What have you done personally to help those in need?

  8. Leo L says:

    Good question Mustafha, before I answer your question, can you answer about the World Trade Centre on 9/11, all the beheadings (neck slicings) in the name of your God?

    Someone once told me, dont point a finger coz there will be 10 more pointing back your way.

    Allah Akbar or Amen.

  9. BigPappa says:

    This verse is clearly refering to Pagans among the Jew and Christians.

    You have twisted the word and historical context of this passage. Why don’t you get a commentary and understand it without asking Christian Infidels (this is long):

    [Pickthal 5:81] If they believed in Allah and the Prophet and that which is revealed unto him, they would not choose them for their friends. But many of them are of evil conduct.
    [Pooya/Ali Commentary 5:81]

    According to Minhaj al Sadiqin an-nabiyy refers to the Holy Prophet and ma unzila ilayhi refers to the Quran, but some commentators say that the reference is to Musa and the Tawrat; and had the Jews believed in Allah, Musa and the Tawrat they would not have taken the pagans for friends, because there are clear prophecies in the Tawrat about the advent of the Holy Prophet (see commentary of al Baqarah: 40).

    [Pickthal 5:82] Thou wilt find the most vehement of mankind in hostility to those who believe (to be) the Jews and the idolaters. And thou wilt find the nearest of them in affection to those who believe (to be) those who say: Lo! We are Christians. That is because there are among them priests and monks, and because they are not proud.
    [Pooya/Ali Commentary 5:82]

    It is impossible to exaggerate the formidable quality of the Jew as an enemy. The Jews and idolaters were most excessive in hatred of the believers, but those who said: “We are the followers of Isa”, were closer to the Muslims because the priests and monks among the early Christians were not Trinitarians.

    [Pickthal 5:83] When they listen to that which hath been revealed unto the messengers, thou seest their eyes overflow with tears because of their recognition of the Truth. They say: Our Lord, we believe. Inscribe us as among the witnesses.
    [Pooya/Ali Commentary 5:83]

    When the Holy Prophet began to preach in public at Makka, the Quraysh violently reacted against him. They insulted him in public, threw dust and dirt at him and over him while in prayers, made loud cries, hooted or sang wild songs to drown his voice while he was preaching; but to their discomfiture they could not prevent him. Finding all their efforts of no avail, they began to use violence against his followers. The Holy Prophet, therefore, advised his followers, who had no protection in Makka, to seek refuge elsewhere. Abyssinia was the place proposed for this purpose, and unanimously agreed upon. Accordingly, in the fifth year of bi-that (about 615 A.D.) one hundred and sixteen refugees, headed by Jafar bin Abu Talib, reached Abyssinia in safety, while the Holy Prophet and his family remained in Makka. Baffled by the Muslim converts escaping to Abyssinia, the Quraysh sent an embassy headed by Amru bin As and Abdullah bin abi Rabi-i with costly presents to the Christian King of Abyssinia, Najashi (Negus). Amru and Abdullah first prostrated themselves to pay Negus their respects, then explained that some of their tribes-men, having adopted a new faith which taught them to think lightly of Isa and Maryam, had forsaken their ancestral religion and escaped to his country. They requested the king, in the name of the Quraysh chiefs, that the fugitives might be delivered up to them. The king sent for the Muslims to hear from them the defence against the heresy of which they were accused. They came in a body headed by Jafar bin Abu Talib. None of the Muslims prostrated himself before the king; but saluted him in their usual manner, ‘peace be on you’. The king was not offended, rather admiring their manners, repeated the charges brought against them by the embassy of Quraysh. Jafar, who was . a man of noble mien, pre-possessing countenance and persuasive eloquence, stood forth and expounded the doctrines of Islam with zeal and enthusiasm. The king who was a Nestorian Christian found the doctrines similar to those of his own religion, opposed to polytheism. He asked Jafar to recite some passages from the revelations to the Holy Prophet. Jafar recited the surah of Maryam, which- touched the heart of the king so much that he could not help shedding tears. (Tabari; Ibn Athir, Ibn Hisham). It is reported that on this occasion these verses (83 to 86) were revealed. Then Negus, pleased to hear Jafar explaining the religion of Allah, dismissed the embassy of Quraysh from his court returning their gifts, and received the Muslims into his favour over and above the protection they already enjoyed. The Muslims lived in Abyssinia till the Holy Prophet established the community of his followers in Madina. In the meantime Negus and his courtiers had embraced Islam. The Holy Prophet wrote him to send back the party of Muslims to Madina. While the Holy Prophet was at Khaybar, Jafar reached Khaybar on the day of its conquest by his brother, Ali ibn abu Talib. The Holy Prophet was much pleased to welcome back his cousin after so long a separation, and joyfully explained that he did not know which of the two incidents Jafar’s arrival or the conquest of Khaybar by Ali-delighted him most.

    Alongwith Jafar came some selected scholars from Abyssinia to learn more about Islam. A group of Christians from Syria headed by the great Christian monk, Buhayra, also came to meet the Holy Prophet. When the Holy Prophet recited the surah Ya Sin before them, their eyes brimmed over with tears and all of them became Muslims.

  10. Muffie says:

    Hezbollah has the blood of hundreds of innocent people on its hands as well. Why do you not count them in your axis of evil? It takes two to have a conflict. Neither nation is innocent; both Israel and Lebanon are doing evil, vicious, and murderous things for what they both are doing or allowing to happen.

    No one is blameless, muslim or jew. Israeli, Lebanese, American, or otherwise. Shame on you for letting bias cover your eyes and lead you away from what true peace is. Preaching against one side over the other encourages a broader conflict, not peace. Mahatmas Ghandi beat the British Empire when it was the dominant power without a single shot fired, without a single person killed. Learn from those who lead by example, not those who cry victim with one face and kill with the other.

    I may be American, but I support neither side in this fight. Israel has our nation’s support because they are an ally. I value loyalty.

  11. bluecollarguytx says:

    When? When all the Muslims are dead.

  12. seminary drop out says:

    You realize most non Muslims hold your Holy Qur’an as a fantasy forced down peoples throats by a child molesting mentally ill mad man named Mo hammed. How many women and children will you hide behind and kill in the name of Allah. You preach about good Christians not resorting to this type of violence but Muslims seem to thrive on death whether its Christian, Muslim, Hindu. Catholic or Buddhist. There’s evidently not enough blood on non Islamic hands cause you crazy fanatics are still with us. Besides your going to need a lot of virgins for your martyr’s and I don’t know where else your going to find them if someone doesn’t send them to paradise before they get there. OH my thats why you hide behind women and children.

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